However when you place limits of 1,000 on primers plus hazmat and shipping doesnt make financial sense. STOP! You cant be a Democrat and a gun supporter. No coercion necessary, all they have to do is sell theirs cheaper than the start-up, and they put them out of business. Asking for a friend. Thanks for nothing Nanook!!!! All the years of letting God be taken out of society has caught up to us but its not too late to put Him back in charge. $0.013 - $110.99. You could keep the limits in place and allow customers the peace of mind that when primers or other reloading supplies are available, they will be delivered in the order received Just a thought. The lack of foreign primers on the market is a major reason we believe this shortage is going to last for quite some time. There is a quantum leap difference between the two. 1 Yes weve received primers Check With Your Local Ammo. That is usually their mode of operation. Search Showing. "We have invested $100 million into the site so far," said Richard A. Smissen, owner, Expansion Industries. I am sure the Covid-19 problem has taken its toll, but to think that the world has stopped producing ammo makes no sense. 1. I keep saying this country is on a runaway train and the end of the track is out there somewhere. What do you think a realistic time frame might be that primers will become available? Rise up put God first! See link below. To believe its cheaper today, especially to a serious reloader is hardly true. I appreciate your opinion. Its time for a new primer manufacturer to step forward. While lots of calibers of ammunition are slowly returning to many store shelves, primers havent really reappeared in any meaningful numbers since The Time Before. WTF. Do Powder Valley employees do what Ive heard about another big retailer, and their employees tell all their friends and family and hold them back and then poof.theyre out of primers! They should lift some regulations and let Americans be Americans. Good lesson to learn. A single large buyer placed an order for 400 Million primers in early September. Biden is using the disguise of common sense gun control to move forward with a very aggressive agenda limiting our gun rights under the 2nd Amendment. Feb 15, 2022. drgondog said: Conversation with Gene Sears Supply yesterday. I love to reload, Thank you for info. If not for today, then for tomorrow. I dont care which so long as its a known. Pray for our country and our nation leaders to do the same and I can believe our great country will turn around!! When asked how they can have so much when everyone else is out,his answer was simplewere not on the internet . Demand, however, is just one part of the story. They are running 2 shifts along with Help wanted signs. What Happened To All The Primers & Ammo 2021? Misinformation and hysteria about they are coming for your guns only contributes to misinformation and any meaningful discussions that can occur under the protection of our settled law rights. Industry capacity is roughly 4.6 million primers per day. Follow my wife around and shoot. "That shortage is sidelining a lot of smaller boutique manufacturers. When so, they could ship automatically or maybe trigger an automatically generated email notice that would need to be responded to within X amount of time to complete the sale and shipment. If theyre diverting all the components to ammo manufacturers, that explains the glut of newly manufactured ammo. So the Maple Leaf eating folks in North Montana dont ship to the US. To make more money. By focusing on just living our lives we have allowed subversives to influence our schools, our churches and our government. So disheartening as I send a press to Dillon for repairs. Well, technically not banned, but you have to pass a background check, buy a $200 knitting stamp, and wait nine months for approval. You know that. Stock up when there is abundance . We are in the midst of the greatest primer shortage of all time, and we dont see things getting better anytime soon. Thank you for this article, I found it a good read. Full Member. Generally I get discounts for purchasing this volume. Ive talked to Canadian sporting goods companies who have reloading supplies falling off their shelves TODAY, and for great prices. Although we've spoken to a few manufacturers over the past months . Many champion shooters who would normally be out at the range practicing their skills have been in seclusion in their homes to protect themselves from Covid and have taken up knitting to fill their days. He has supported sensible gun control. So far the only new 209 primer supply for last 8 months have been Noble. Either way, we will win, as it should be , all they have to do is sell theirs cheaper than the start-up, and they put them out of business . Thank you for this post! So my small pistol primers are drying up and I am having to load 45 acp because I have 25 k of large pistol primers on hand. I dont think anybody saw this coming. You literally vote for xxxxxxxxx who promise to take them away or institute bans. If theyre afraid to register a militarized weapon they have something to hide. But Im still on the hunt. Gosh??? Login / Join. I almost got rid of them awhile back due to their age but thank goodness I didnt get serious enough to seek a market for them. If Powder Valley is going to restrict primer purchases to 1k, I think you shouldnt charge a hazmat fee. The pros seem to still have a bottomless supply but the rest of us will have to cut down or eliminate live fire practice. Some powders will be in stock more quickly, but we believe it will take much of 2020 to improve availability for all powders. FREE SHIPPING. 1. The Texarkana Gazette wrote about the new employer . The new administration is definitely anti gun and anti 2A, and right now they have the ability to really hurt that community with the current situation. It is time to put God back in our country! Federal Premium Champion 209 Shotshell Primers $ 31. Hope its just a matter of time before supply returns. The demand for ammo and reloading supplies continues to skyrocket. This benefits pv and customers because it wont be about how many times a day we check..hoping to get lucky. A mix of the Covid-19 pandemic, civil unrest, and the possibility of an anti-2nd amendment President and Senate has caused demand to skyrocket. They will do their best to take out the 2nd Amendment and a couple other amendments they dont like i.e. A Massive Increase in Demand. 3. Can i get on a waiting list to at least expect some small rifel or pistol primers eventually in some kind of order? Im probably going to use whatever I have left and just throw in the towel. Frankly, I dont see this getting any better for the foreseeable future. Thats WHY!!! It will also make it near impossible for new shooters in these sports to even get a proper start and may force them to abandon their idea of becoming a practical shooter at all. Remember what some of the democrats were saying before the election. This could also be done in the form of high taxes on primers ,powder ect. I agree so maney new shooters and our fair share of hoarders makes it difacult for a real to keep up. 1000 at a time isnt worth the shipping and hazmat. That will effectively end businesses like Powder Valley. Possibly by federal taxes on on components as they plan on semi- automatic rifles. Can the limits be set at 5,000? China has been smelting lead for us. (Cue, Joe Piscapo in Johnny Dangerously). Thanks for the update. I suppose one could make it cheaper but he wouldnt be doing so with variety and precision. Advertise bulk semi-tractor trailer loads, hook up, and drive off. Even if they sell exclusively to manufacturers, that means more stock will be available from Olin and Vista. I ask, where do they get their primers? Ive been wondering about the reloading supply chain.Thank you for the timely and well though out article. Ive wondered why I havent see ANY CCI primers I mostly shoot rimfire around the house, anyway. Over the last several years, I have purchasing a sleeve (5,000) primers a year, whether I needed them or not. Good luck to us all, were going to need it. Thanks for the explanation of where have all the primers gone ! This cycle of shortage is going to continue until the public either changes its buying habits or stops electing control freaks who want to make our personal decisions for us. I have expanded to casting and sizing bullets for myself, scavenging used brass even in calibers that can be converted. I have been wondering where all the primers have gone. This is going to really hurt competition shooting. I have been a reloader for over forty years and this situation is preposterous ! Tired of waiting for 300 Blackout ammo, brass, or primers to become available. I like doing business with you. In the past, i normally would buy primers 10k at a time in order to spread out the Haz Mat surcharge. I suggest that if you are short on ammo that you practice with airguns and save the ammo for the days when you will need it. Feb 22, 2022. $12.99. Shoot less until the supply of components start to rise. Thanks for the explanation but dont call them our leaders. No matter who is elected! Texas made primers. Knitting? I am completely aware of law and the fight that us 2nd Amendment supporters put up every year. You can locate primers here and there, but normally it's all magum primers for large or small rifle or pistol. What we need to do beside being gouged by those that have primers is to trade excess primers we have for some we need from fellow reloaders. Which is good advice anytime. That's a significant increase from the previous all-time high of 28 million background checks in 2019. Id like to see more thoughtful approach to allow your regular customers to get in line without hoarding and costing us all a fortune in hazmat. Limiting regular PV primer customers to purchasing a single box of 1,000 that incurs the full hazmat charge only richens the shipping companies and applies a huge penalty to the buyer. No problem getting brass or bullets, but my press cant run without primers and powder. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We the people, the voters on either side, are all in the same boat. Obama, Trump, Biden doesnt seem to matter. The use of stockpile does not lend itself to a negative implication. All these big companies bought up all the little companies so with the few suppliers we have now we fall to the mercy of their mis-management. So, if all the primers that would normally be be available for reloaders are being diverted for factory ammo, where is all the the factory ammo!?!? Good luck to you and may God Bless you as we celebrate the birth of Jesus. Thanks for the information. I wish you would allow for customers to back order through the website. Now Im lucky to find several hundred primers at once. Ill now stop floundering around the internet looking for whats not to be found. Their customers will literally beat a path to their door, ets hope Olin doesnt try to coerce a duopoly by threatening retaliation. This leaves primers, which are relatively difficult to make, as the component that causes the bulk of ammo shortages. The only hangup was that these products were available for export. 69. NO GOD, NO HOPE. They have already done it in California and hope to make it nationwide. for those of you that are finding shotgun primers, how much are you paying? I have been doing a lot of reloading because I wanted to preserve my primers, so this is great news. Primer. Details. Please give us any updates as they become available. What you said is absolute nonsense. Stock up in times of plentiful supply so that you are not affected as greatly during these times of extreme shortage. Most of the time I do not put a whole lot of weight on what a politician says but when a politician issues a campaign promise to End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. 99. A: While Hodgdon will continue to ship powder as rapidly as possible, we have a significant backlog in demand. The more I think about that, the better it sounds. Cross bows, long bows and compounds dont need primers, at least they give you something to shoot with. I would however object to the use of the word hoarding. Your referenced supporters arent defending the Amendment. Cant find one single primer locally due to out of staters buying & hoarding local stocks. A Corner on the Primer Market. The pandemic specifically has incentivized shooters to learn how to reload their own ammo. only get worse. Thank you, Thank you so much for the information about the primer shortage and other reloading supplies . I will have check for more recent prices. This is all about supply and demand. Oct 2, 2011 262 83 50 Billings MT. Owner My couple of thousand rounds in reserve must be preserved as the future is not as rosy as I had hoped. So I load for almost nothing if I can get primers. The Remington bankruptcy has had a large impact on the shortage of ammo and primers. They are making primers at the same normal rate and not increasing production on purpose. And one of those slips one in sideways occasionally -3-5 per 100 in the hand primer. Not sure if you noticed but we do have W209 shotshell primers in stock at this time. Ephesians 6:10-18 Leftism is a mental illness fueled by an obsession to control people and shred individual liberty. At a production rate of 4 million per day, a shortage shouldnt last long. IF THAT IS TRUE, the shortage will ease up sometime in December. Thanks for the info ,I have a little different take on the ammo and reloading supplies problem we all are facing in these dire time witch includes a new person in charge who has no respect for the constitution our country lives and dies to protect. Saved Searches. We need to pray hard and no longer sit on the sidelines thinking that most Americans hold the same values we do. Probably wont get to use it until I can get more primers. I understand there is a lot to it, but this is one of those circumstances, in my opinion, that could be effectively addressed by American Ingenuity. What I take away form this is the a small group of folks have taken what supplies there are and pushed them into the secondary market, just like what occurred with powder. Refine by Primer Style: 209M 50 Caliber BMG. Probably best answer to the situation, thanks. Prospects of anti 2nd amendment president? This is the best news Im a reloader and like the rest primers we need. Any magazine that mentions the trigger recall will lose their advertising. Thats a great idea Tom. Cost Range. Its an oxymoron. I lost all my reloading supplies in a boat accident. Recap: primer manufacturers are Federal, CCI, Winchester, Remington, S&B & soon to be Lone Star. There are a lot of rumors going around about the shortages of reloading supplies . Two months ago I saw a post where this moron had a photo of 1,000 bricks, with a thousand primers in each brick, that he had purchased . Gun lobbyists saw to their unbridled sale and the Xbox Call of Duty generation is filling their pockets in return. Nevertheless, even at that price primers get snapped up quickly, & in quantity. It was loud, and my ears rang for about an hour. To God be the Glory!! It was fun while it lasted,RIP shooting sports,thats why Iam done with powder burners,more fun with With God back in charge of our lives we can not fail! For those of us, that use Powder Valley almost exclusively for components, it wold be nice if you set up a will call data base to keep customers names and contacts on file so you can contact them where you do have primers for sale. As for the new primer facility, it will be cranking out all sizes of primers for Expansion's ammo and also to supply several small, medium, and large ammo makers within the year. Prototype production up front please, as fast as you can. Along with addressing the shortage issues, Hodgdon explains the challenges involved in increasing production in the USA and/or increasing imports from overseas. The .22 LR is not a good self defense cartridge, its not reloadable, and it doesnt require primers in the traditional sense. Hopefully this is for real and they can produce some quality primers. Overpriced, but at least available. This would be similar to crude oil supply,,,,,None, Zero, Zilch was exported until we were/are self-sufficient,,,Now we are exporting oil Thats the best news Ive heard in a month of Sundays. 99. They want to curtail your right to keep and bear arms, so when they control the ammo, they control your firearms. Prior to that date the cost ranged from a low of $20/1,000 to a high of about $35/1,000. Available. Please lead the industry and create this, complete with email and phone text notices. 99. We still have products were receiving from orders placed in February and March and most of those items are only being received in partial quantities. CCI Primers #11 Percussion Caps 100-Count $ 11 99 11 dollars 99 cents. Hope some of them get hired by the new ammo company. The people who are trying to take over American are buying them so we cant fight back. Its very real and they have money behind them. We never had this problem with assault weapon mass shootings in my past. Unfortunately, knitting needles are also in short supply, and the demand for knitting needles has sky rocketed right along with primers. Expect prices to go up and quantities to go down. Ive spent over $15,000 (us liberals get all are money from George Soros and Hillary Clinton) on weapons and ammunitions this year alone because Im sick and tired of seeing all the crazy gun toting trump supporters carrying their guns and threatening or shooting those they disagree with. I have been a customer for a number of years . Thanks for the informative article. 2 No, our employees do not share information and get the primers to all their buddies. The political landscape is more volatile and explosive than ever. Buckle up, its gonna be a bumpy 2 years till Congress goes Rep. The article is informative. Badger Ordnance near Baraboo, WI has been completely demolished. Praying for change is OK. Mostly its the 209s for shotshells Im wanting. In the meantime I would encourage everyone to pray for our country and our leaders as we navigate this perilous situation. With the recent purchase of Remington by Vista, there is a good chance that Vista will be diverting CCI and Federal primers that would typically go to reloaders to Remington ammunition production. The most important thing you said is PRAY to God for our country and our elected?? Im using my large rifle primers now for my 45 ACP, until they are gone too ! Without God we are nothing! VOTING change is what will make a difference! Everyone reading this is now frantically buying up knitting needles and yarn. Expansion purchased the old Lone Star Army Ammunition Plant located 12 miles west of Texarkana, Texas that made all sorts of things that go boom for the military from World War II through the Vietnam War. Well, no use getting too tense. Something I can add is, this is my 30th year in law enforcement and we have great concerns about ammo as well. A quick look at places like Gunbroker show plenty of primers are available unfortunately, they are often 2 to 5 times normal MSRP. and definitely keep praying! Expansion Industries, with a hundred million in capital, has secured a location and is advertising for staff to run the production lines it has planned to open later this year. The . I have plenty of 5.56 on hand. Courts have upheld their law. Thank you for the info I would like to see the shooting community be a little less greedy if you have enough let those in need buy some. November 20, 2021 at 10:38 pm #388407. glennsevert. Non-corrosive, all weather primers deliver fast, dependable ignition under any shooting condition. So,,,,,AMERICA FIRST!!!!!!!!!!! I appreciate the time Powder Valley took to print this because I was wondering where the Wolf primers were. I was in here looking for any tips in finding primers for my shotgun reloading needs when I read into an array of political bullcrap thats weaseled its way into a beloved sport. Any chance of Powder Valley starting a back order list so it isnt just by chance of looking at your site when you have a supply? Its all those youngsters buying those ar14s and thinking that need a glock- this aint the Boogaloo- your preventing families from hunting. Primers. You get bits and pieces of information at the local gun stores, but this brings it all together, basically the Perfect Storm. keep up the good work and thank you. Without primers, you cannot produce ammunition. So if they have so many then why do we have none? I dont care if they work in a Dillon tube or not just so they work in the cartridges. Sounds a little two faced. First of all, thank you for your prompt attention and delivery of my recent order. What are the manufacturers doing about this? Positive test results do not mean a clinical infection, he says. Thanks for being there for us Powder Valley, it very much appreciated.. Primers will come back, and it be just like 22lr or hand sanitizer. Primer shortage may be the problem for some but us mag shooters that use Retumbo and H1000 , all have primers thanks to Hodgdon little to no supply since mid 2018. Taking full advantage of the times we are in to make 400% profit. Id love to see you at the range but that may be some other year! People need to stop buying $33.00 in primers to sell for $700.00. Feedback from the primer distributors - the 4 US manufacturers of primers have a daily capacity of 4.6 million. It would be great if sellers would add text alerts to their alert me when in stock system. Magnum and std large rifle primers are the most difficult to locate, the std being the hardest. Ive been reloading for 46 years and Im just not used to seeing such a thing as this happening. We have had RECORD SALES of firearms for TWO YEARS. Only located one brick of small pistol std primers, at $75 for the brick. Reload your primers. I mostly shoot rimfire around the house, anyway.. We dont normally get ETAs. My next birthday will make 70 trips around the sun, have decided that those days are coming to an end. Sure would save a lot of time for us shoppers. Assault weapons should have been classed with machine gun status when they first hit the market. Why? I am just going to wait, shoot less, and hopefully production will eventually overtake the shortages and we can all pay a fair price for things. Good thing a buddy and I got 1000sands-ez-ez es of the cheap euro primers and the fiochiis were cheap also. Unfortunately, the reality is there are numerous reasons why they have become nearly extinct in reloading outlets. : r/reloading. Its also limiting the production of many popular types of ammunition. According to publicly available data, since 2015 Olin has received more than 1,600 federal contracts to supply ammunition and components to federal agencies. Even at that, with the shortages I guess the sensible thing to do is avoid any major shootouts. Remember the Clinton primer shortage where they wanted primers that degrade over time so people wouldnt want to stockpile ammunition and the shortage of military ammo cans? Biden would probably have the ttc turn a blind eye though, wouldnt he? You can I rest assured that folks like me, lifelong passionate hunter and guide, environmentalist, progressive, and Second supporter will never support anyone that is anti-2nd. 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