Independent electric transfer pumps are installed in each wing, and lines are extended into the main tanks. The Sportsman STOL is not just a lip on the bottom, but is a re-engineered airfoil. Conical Cambered Wing Tips Cessna 185 owners will immediately benefit from an increase of 175 lbs. . Installation costs about equal the parts prices. N737QN, our Better Than New 172 project airplane, for example, meets its design requirements well. This listing was posted on Oct 17, 2019. Canadian pilot Matt Wall was tired of fighting for a spot on crowded road-access B.C. Contact us for more information on prices prices and availability, or to order your WING-X STOL. Products STC? The Airplane of the Week this week is the Cessna 182 Skylane, in particular, one with the Cessna 182 STOL kit. I'd love to see what VG's do. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. Text or call, no email due to spammers. Wing-X extensions are not STC'd for a 172 in the US. The package adds about 17 pounds to the empty weight. Your login, avatars, posts and archives have all be relocated there. https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/commods-for-the-backcountry.131521/#post-3068367, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Control Surface Seals Up to 47% shorter takeoff and landing distances, Lowered nose permits safer obstacle clearance on difficult approaches and departures, Improved high angle stall characteristics, Improved high density altitude performance, Operate into and out of smaller airstrips with greater safety and convenience. It was developed for the C-170 and actually adds lift area. Wing Extension and spar reinforcement for Cessna 170, 172, 175, 180, 182, 185 and Wip-Tips for Cessna 206 providing gross weight increases on most models. Re: Which STOL mod for C-172. Get a Timer at FunPlacesToFly. Our elevation is 3,800' and the 260' was on a 50 degree day with about 7 kts. Cessna 180 tested at 3,194 lbs. 2023 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, Aircraft Maintenance: Digging deep for a poisonous gas leak, News From HQ: Spring Into the Flying Season. Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin, Night Photos My plane did not have the flap gap seals when I bought it so I installed them several years ago. 1988 Cruiser Yachts 3380 2 bedroom cabin cruiser . when combined with additional modifications. FAA approved for early model 150, 152, 172, 182, 180, 185, 206 and 210 models. The aileron seals stop the flow of air from the high-pressure area on the underside of the wing to the low-pressure area on top of the wing via the gap between the trailing edge of the wing and leading edge of the aileron. when combined with additional modifications. Formed to preserve and promote a truly classic airplane, Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher, by zero.one.victor Fri May 21, 2004 7:05 pm, by Joe Moilanen Sat May 22, 2004 2:19 am, by zero.one.victor Sat May 22, 2004 2:46 pm, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 19 guests. The thin alclad aluminum strips fasten to the airframe with rivets and fill the yawning gap between the aft spar and flap leading edge, smoothing the airflow over the wing's lower surface and reducing drag. Such a dream to fly! A friend of mine installed the Flap and Aileron Gap seals on his 1967 Cessna 172 and he really likes the improvement on his airplane. Such a dream to fly! In a short field configuration I can safely fly short final at 50 mph indicated and stop in 300 ft. Airliners.net is the leading community for discovering and sharing high-quality aviation photography. I have the Horton kit on our '55 170B and it will also indicate 0 in slowflight with aileron control. Some late model Cessna 180's approved at 3,190 lbs. Empty weight is increased by about 38 pounds. All C-180 and C-182 owners will benefit with a GTOW of 2,950 lbs. You can now carry that extra passenger or payload and still have great performance. Most of the Cessna STOL kits list for $799, but because of the lack of commonality of parts with the rest of the fleet, the Skymaster kit can cost as much as $1,393. Does the Sportsman not have those? Cessna 180 tested at . . The larger engine obviously improves cruise and climb performance. Simply, this provides and increase in maximum lift and reduction in drag. Mine has Horton and Vgs, I have the opportunity to sell the Horton, and install the Sportsman for a low labor fee. 1957 Cessna 172 airplane for sale located in United States. We are NOT liable for any damage to your aircraft or injury incurred as a result of following our tips, advice or instructions. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2366/2527 4e43_b.jpg. The components of the kit were developed by Charles Seibel, who proved that his modifications could make a fixed-gear Skylane as fast as a retractable-gear version. Approved on all series. Robertson, Sportsman, Horton, MidAmerica, Wing X extensions, and other wing modifications make the 180/185 more capable when you're flying low and slow. Description. p.p.s This aircraft is also equipped with 180 horses' of pure Lycoming, so if the STOL performance I observed was not a fluke, she's going to be one bad-ass bird for my Alaska bush flying! Moderators: richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR, Military Aircraft I don't recall seeing stall fences on top. Read about other great products for your Cessna. While theres no doubt rigging, lowering weight and more than anything practice gives you better bang for your buck. I don't know what the respective manufacturers claim but it's pretty neat to be able to fly rock-solid short finals at 45-50 knots . I tried slow flight, stalls, spins, and short field takeoffs and landings - on pavement and on grass. I installed the Sportsman this winter. No Issues, No Corrosion. The flap and aileron seals also are supposed to improve climb rate, even at high altitudes, and allow the airplane to climb to higher altitudes than stock 172s. Search more Cessna airplanes on Hangar67. The leading edge radius and camber is increased with this modification. Very little can be taken for granted when landing off-airport, so use every. Other great products (At the peak of production in 1966, Cessna . STC approved in combination with other STOL kit modifications on all series of Cessna 180, 182 and 185 on wheels, skis or floats. Is this the motor on the plane? Induced drag is further reduced since the HORTON STOL-CRAFT tips reduce wing tip vortex strength. * Flight Test performance averages are based on pilot technique as demonstrated on various aircraft models and configurations. All Cessna models 180, 182 GTOW 2,950 lbs. We have moved! The list includes virtually all the Cessna singles and the 337 Skymaster and many of the "Hershey-bar-wing" Piper PA-28s and even the Grumman AA-1. 12.22.2013 - Initial article format Operating aircraft on skis and negotiating a snow-covered landscape is an entirely unique skillset and environment. In the event of an engine failure and you are forced to land in an unfamiliar area, the STOL conversion gives you more time and control of your airplane by allowing you to reduce forward airspeed, while reducing the sink rate. Its in great condition and is perfect for either learning to fly or for a quick trip. I have seen those on the Horton and perhaps others. Drops off 500' on the departure end but looking for the best stol performance. Views: 135. As someone else mentioned, getting approval for an 8042 prop on a 172 would be tough. They also increase the wing area and decrease the stall speed. Horton charges $999 for the Piper kits and $845 for installation. micro VGs? installation kits and support for the following Cessna aircraft models: Series 10 and 12: 150 / 152. Cessna 182 tested at 2,950 lbs. Thats probably why no one brought them up. It still takes me at least 100 ft more to takeoff than land though. List of WING-X STOL installers As a result, the low speed handling qualities of the aircraft are greatly enhanced, and then lower portions of the wing, depending on the aircraft manufacturer. Because our project airplane has been in the paint, interior, and avionics shops since the STOL and engine installations, we can't report much yet on the performance of our airframe mods. Added new article from Ravi Fry Serious inquiries only. My assumption is that I would get similiar results on my Cessna 170. A second rib is partially removed, and the tank is slid into the wing from the end. Get extra lift from AOPA. RMD's list price for 172s is $1,095. Some late model Cessna 180's approved at 3,190 lbs. Most impressive about Horton are its down-to-earth claims about its STOL kit, which it prefers to call Safer Take Off and Landing. Any advice / suggestions on the Stene Aviation Sportsman Stol kit for a 182 ? Horton makes no outlandish performance claims and admits that the numbers it publishes were obtained under ideal test conditions. The slow landing performance is not . Our large helicopter section. We thank you for your support and hope you'll join the largest aviation community on the web. We are not aircraft or aviation professionals or certified technicians. It floated far down the runway when we approached at normal 172 speeds. ). Although we have used the Just seeing if anyone is interested in participating a Cessna 172 partnership at Murray Field in Eureka. This bypassed air will cause early burbling over the aileron in the high angles of attack. No Issues, No Corrosion. I think you should consider the Sportsman stol kit. Cessna 185 tested at 3,600 lbs.Cessna 206 tested at 3,800 lbs. Similar tanks for some models of 206s and 207s and the 210D through F add from 28 to 30 gallons and about 36 inches to the wingspan. I first contacted the company back in 1999 and Horton sent along a reprint of a 1991 Aviation Consumer article that reported a speed increase of 14 knots following the Flight Bonus installation on a 1968 Skylane. The other primary airframe difference between the two was that my horizontal stabilizer was 10" shorter, which would also mean less drag. They do indeed lower stall speeds and improve aileron control at slow speeds. My 170A has both the HORTON STOL kit and VGs. Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe, Classic Airliners USER_MINI_PROFILE. Over the past 18 years, Horton has developed STOL kits for dozens of models of Cessnas and Pipers. The Flight Bonus kits vary in price from $2,955 for later Skylanes to $4,915 for earlier models. My current wish list also includes vortex generators to lower stall speeds and improve low speed handling. Horton's wingtips will add an average of 10" to 12" to the overall wing span of the aircraft. Locate your regional WING-X STOL distributor. Attention Cessna 172 Club Members! If you decide to fly your aircraft into one of the locations listed, you do so at your own risk. Im surprised no one has mentioned the wing extensions. that I get on this posting. Hundreds of pilots who fly through small and metropolitan airports every day are using R/STOLs enhanced performance to gain extra time, avoid delays, reduce aircraft wear and tear and cut operating costs. Subscribe to the BackcountryPilot newsletter to be notified of new articles, videos, merchandise, and more. Looking at purchasing a 172D. Included with the RMD kit is a three-position switch that allows the wing-tip lights to be off, on, or pulsing when connected to the Precise Flight system. Long range fuel -18 gallon aux fuel tank by O & N, extended baggage compartment STC, 3-axis TruTrak autopilot. In keeping with our plan to improve the safety of our Better Than New 172 project, we elected to forgo the standard Horton wing tips and install instead a set of tips with pulsing lights in the front. Engine only 50 hours SMOH by One Stop Aviation, Lycoming O-360-A3A. Recent paint and interior by SE Aircraft Painting. The rivets supplied aren't what you need. Install time is three days at Horton. Our kit for the Cessna 180, 182 and 185 has a specially engineered "Wing Reinforcement", and when attached along the main spar this modification increases the overall strength of the wing and gives you a dramatic gross weight increase. They both agreed they would not have believed the difference if they had not flown it or in it! ** This video was shot with GoPro Max 360 and GoPro Hero Black Cameras:GoPro Ma. For the owners of new Cessna aircraft with the Camber Lift Cuff, HORTON STOL-CRAFT has designed and engineered a new leading edge, for increased performance, to replace the Cessna Camber Lift Leading Edge. On occasion a few older model, hi-time, Cessna aircraft have been found to have cracks along the center rib channel in the upper spar cap area at wing station 136.00 to 172.00. approved on wheels, floats and skis as well as providing enhanced performance throughout the flight envelope. Discussion in 'Avionics and Upgrades' started by JaGuar, Sep 6, 2021. Most of the Cessna STOL kits list for $799, but because of the lack of commonality of parts with the rest of the fleet, the Skymaster kit can cost as much as $1,393. 12.4 square feet of wing area to your aircraft. There is no gross weight increase available for the 206 series. Horton, Inc. Installation adds $1,200 to $1,700. Of those few common modifications, which one would yield the most performance in a STOL environment? Sold as a set of two. I have a 1956 Cessna 172, the nose bowls both top and bottom are . Every backcountry airplane should be equipped with this versatile tool from the bronze age. * Flight Test performance averages are based on pilot technique as demonstrated on various aircraft models and configurations. Price: $18,500.00. 185. The slow landing performance is not your main concern but safety is. Reduced water landing impact loads by 8%; Increased takeoff performance by as much as 30%; Increased lateral stability in all phases of flight; Increase service ceiling by almost 1,000 feet (7% more wing area); Increase cruise speed 2% at cruise settings of 65% and 75%; Increased flight safety margin and stability at low speed; STC approved in combination with other STOL kit modifications on all series of Cessna 180, 182 and 185 on wheels, skis or floats. The combination of these results will give you the possibility of touching down at a fraction of the normal speed, the chances of personal injury and aircraft damage is greatly reduced. In the end, we believe the airframe enhancements, when combined with the larger engine and the many improvements we're installing inside the airplane, will indeed show that it's possible to provide new levels of safety and comfort to the existing fleet. Only STC's and certified materials and quality parts are used in the Horton STOL conversions. The auxiliary fuel tanks are a less obvious airframe modification. Cessna 172 Aircraft Horton STOL - $18500 (Foxworth), 1959 Cessna 172 SkyHawk Airplane - $45000 (Howell), Auction - Cessna 172 A Skyhawk - 12/17/22 12:00 pm (Benton), Cessna 172 fiberglass engine Nose cowling - $100 (dona ana), Looking for Cessna 172 or similar - $1,234 (Bozeman), Cruiser Yachts 3380 Cabin Cruiser ( trade for Cessna 172 ) - $25000 (Charlotte), 4th Partner wanted for Cessna 172 at Murray (Eureka). RMD Aircraft Lighting, Incorporated, 3648 S.E. Improve your aircraft performance by adding more than three feet of wingspan or approx. The cuff increases the radius and camber of the wing leading edge, increasing maximum lift and reducing drag. Such a dream to fly! In a Cessna 182 it's loosing this amount of weight does make a difference in the elevator forces Because of its light weight there is a quicker throttle response . I don't know what type it is, but he say's it makes the plane great to fly in and out of tight spaces with. Thanks for your suggestions. The pilot had never flown a plane with the stall kit. 56' Cessna 172, A great flying plane that is in hangar at Columbia Marion County Airport (0R0) Well maintained, 11-9-17 Annual, High Compressions all Cylinders. We do not verify or check out any event or destinations that are submitted to our website for display. That's probably why no one brought them up. Login or Sign Up; 0; Wishlist. It's the same friendly, informative place for all things Cessna 172, now with a larger group of pilots and state-of-the-art forum software. Lowered my heavy loaded takeoff ground roll about 1/3rd with 180 hp Lyc. The following suite of pictures are intended to assist installers who are installing the Sportsman STOL modification on their Cessna aircraft. Install time is three days at Horton. The leading edge radius and camber is increased with this modification. Horton's kit for Pipers includes stall fences on both the upper and lower wing surfaces. Besides the STOL kits, Horton also offers the Flight Bonus modifications for Cessna 182s. It was a great combo. Installation costs about equal the parts prices. http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/80476/page=2. At the CPA Rigging class my 172 was used for the early model sample plane. Buy an already 0-360 converted 172 or an early 182..or as said, learn to fly the 172 in stock trim well. 172 Applicable to: TC Models A-799 CESSNA 170A, 170B I've seen them on 170's in Alaska but not sure if there is an STC for the 170 yet. List of WING-X STOL installers Cessna wing tips with landing light kit. I have the full STOL kit on my 1956 172. KUVA | Garner Field Airport 122 Howard Langford Dr Uvalde, TX 78801. $100 Matt 575-993-189six My name is Eli and I'm looking for a small plane (Cessna 172 or similar) to finish my Private Pilot License in. The designs and construction methods of general aviation airplanes really are fairly efficient considering the demand that airframes be light, strong, durable, and easy to maintain. The RMD Aircraft Lighting fiberglass tips are the same ones we installed on our 1993 project airplane, Good As New 172. "More Wing More Lift it's that simple". Graphs for more information please contact us. What about vortex generators? Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft, Special Paint Schemes In the case of the 172, the tanks add 24 gallons to the stock 40-gallon capacity; about a half-gallon per tank is unusable. Great advice from the others. I agree with Roesbery. In fact, we found it difficult to land the airplane. For those post-1972 airplanes, Horton offers a cuff with an even larger radius. [I am,however, almost done building a Glastar]. 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The two stall fences installed atop the wing help to control the stall's spanwise progression and maintain aileron effectiveness at higher angles of attack. Horton claims a 1- to 3-mph increase in cruise speed. Wellington Municipal Airport It appears that your cart is currently empty! My 170A has both the HORTON STOL kit and VGs. Because it fits in the same cowling with virtually no changes, the only penalty is increased fuel flow and a slight weight increase. The Horton STOL Conversion will give the advantage of taking-off and landing at a slower speed, the ability to get out of grass strips easier, obtain better performance at high altitudes, with better aileron control at low speeds, reduce the tendency to spin and reduce the stall speed. Since acquiring the mods from Seibel in 1987, Horton has converted them from plastic to more durable fiberglass and made minor changes to improve fitting. Whats the best bang for buck on making STOL mods on an early 172? 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