His sister and the rest of the Boyd/Brann family remember him with love. Here it is in 2012 and we still talk about it. Youre right, fate definitely was on your and your classmates side that day. When played back at normal speed, it will sound Chipmunked. The recording I posted is an exact copy of the original, although I did EQ it to bring out the voice and reduce tape noise. Love, Several of us fell as we were instructed to run to the covered lunch area. To be honest even after sheeding tears i still cant stop whenever i think about these kids. As it turned out, my brothers class was safe. If anyone wants to talk to you about the crash, they can contact me and Id be happy to pass along your email address to them after checking with you. I knew that they were going to have to clean more than the fence. We were on the playground and looked up. I was only seven years old when this crash happened, and it has stuck with me all of my life. I had Mrs. Oschatz for third grade and Mr. Marto for fourth. Then, when I got to Pacoima Jr. High the drills just stopped. The fire seemed to be out, but things were still smoking. Your comment is the first wide-angle account written here. We walked to what would later become my junior high school accompanied by our next door neighbor Jan Soderman. Thank you, On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B transport plane crashed into the school yard of Pacoima Junior High School, 9919 Laurel Canyon Boulevard, after colliding with a Northrop F-89J Scorpion jet trainer plane. Thank you for the thank you. Ill refer to to this site which Im sure she will find interesting. At some point at Madison Jr. HS (1967-1969), I was responsible for managing those loudspeaker announcements we use to have to sit through in homeroom. I had harrowing moments in my years of flying, but nothing like that day. I saw many students injuries on that day. PJH Student from the 60. Im glad I was able to provide a forum for a few of the witnesses and survivors. If anyone knows, please write. It still looks pretty darned good. Thank you for your recollection. Could you put me in contact with David? I Dont know how to send it to you. The impact was deafening, followed by fire and thick smoke. Two years after the Pacoima disaster, Valens was killed along with his fellow performers and tour mates, J.P. Big Bopper Richardson and Buddy Holly when their light plane crashed near Clear Lake, Iowa. By the way, I went to Pacoima a decade later and there was still lots of music going on. Two men appeared from the back of the hanger and asked me questions, for which they seemed to already have answers. We drove home in silence. My father was a Los Angeles Policeman stationed at the Van Nuys Station. I can only imagine moms reaction to Pams account of the crash. I dont remember hearing the explosion but I ran over to the windows and remember seeing the black smoke and a lot of debris twirling in the air. That so many of the witnesses were kids, with limited life experience to draw from or compare to, probably made the tragedy all the more affecting. Thank you for writing about your memory of that day. So no, I have no lasting fears of flying. If you were an 8th grader when this happened, you must be in your 70s now. Thank you for adding your vivid account to the discussion. After just watching The Ritchie Valens movie again, I binged this site. It was my understanding that they were holding a graduation rehearsal in front of B-9 students. Russ, thanks for the time and effort to post and manage this thread. An interesting bit of info regarding the parachuting radioman from the fighter jet: the heat in his cockpit was so intense that sparks ignited a few spots on his parachute. Yes, many people were profoundly affected by this tragedy. At the time I remember thinking it was shredded paper. You reminded me that my sister, who happened to be at the P.E. We lived near by on Gain Street and I went to Kindergarten at Beachy Avenue School. Russ: I was injured in the Pacoima plane crash in 1957, You put me in touch with Gary Powell who was there too. Say goodbye to everybody were going in. The navigator of the F-89 had parachuted safely to the ground immediately after his jets near head-on collision with the larger aircraft. What I saw Ill never forget. I was in the 9th grade in the orchestra practicing in the auditorium when this happened. I saw a photo of a kid (student?) For some, a life-changer. God bless you and all those who visit here. When did your dad retire. And, other than the pictures my parents had of me, Ive not seen one of me until I saw the one on the page of the Pacoima Post. He was a captain in the US Army Air Force. The two schools shared a common chain link fence about 10 feet high. Its unusual enough to meet a fellow native Southern Californian these days, let alone four all connected in some way to the crash. He was just a really good guy and very well liked. We didnt know if the plane parts had landed in the elementary school classrooms. You and mom said even less. Hope things are going well for you these days. Well, this plane crash was horrendous, I will never forget it, I remember parts of the plane landing in our backyard, I think I was walking home from Beachy Avenue Elementary School when it happened, about 2 blocks away at around 11 a.m. or so. We lived only a few blocks from the school and my mother had been out hanging laundry. Amazingly, a program in the school auditorium was being recorded, and the sounds of the crash can be heard here, as well as some eye-witness []. It would strictly be for my own use I wouldnt post it or use it in any other public way. I was at my friend Pattis house, playing with her Moms box of buttons on the living room floor. Hello Phyllis, I was in the auditorium getting ready to graduate.LInda Lutrell was a very good friend of mine.I will never forget that day and just now listened to the recording.I was shocked at my reaction to it.I went to grade school and Jr. High with Linda and wouod love to connect with her again,its been years..My name then was Lana Brosamle.Linda was in our little group of girls.Pat Cox, Dorothy Alexander, Marlene Sherman. Howerver, I did not ask permission to go out and get it, I just ran out, grabbed it and was not in the gym side door but a few seconds when the plane crashed. The plane disappeared over the Pacific Ocean about thirty minutes after taking off from Tokyo. Had no idea this existed. Junk that had been an DC-7 airplane, junk that had hurtled from the explosion, junk that maimed and killed our friends. Thanks for your comment. Very good question. Looking up with all my friends, we saw a huge black cloud of smoke and the planes falling to earth. The heat from the 100 foot tall flames to my right were hotter than the oil I was laying in. About 80 students stood in the schoolyard transfixed, watching the plane hurtle toward them. Kris, If there is anything I can help you with, let me know. If you like history too, this is the channel for you.Subscribe for more forgotten history: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4sEmXUuWIFlxRIFBRV6VXQ?sub_confirmation=1.Awesome The History Guy merchandise is available at:https://teespring.com/stores/the-history-guyScript by THG#aviation #thehistoryguy #california But still, Im pretty darned sure I did see it. I remember walking down Pierce St. to Richard Kellers house one day and Rusty was playing lead guitar with the Showmen practicing in a garage. Is was crazy. I remember Mr. Marto was a pretty cool teacher for the most part. Thanks again for sharing it and for sharing your familys experience. Is there an type of memorial to those who perished?y Bill Ritchie, From: Russ Buchanan To: billscessn99@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:23 AM Subject: [New comment] Pacoima Jr. High School Airplane Crash of 1957 (audio recording as it happened) #yiv7212670403 a:hover {color:red;}#yiv7212670403 a {text-decoration:none;color:#0088cc;}#yiv7212670403 a.yiv7212670403primaryactionlink:link, #yiv7212670403 a.yiv7212670403primaryactionlink:visited {background-color:#2585B2;color:#fff;}#yiv7212670403 a.yiv7212670403primaryactionlink:hover, #yiv7212670403 a.yiv7212670403primaryactionlink:active {background-color:#11729E;color:#fff;}#yiv7212670403 WordPress.com |, Russ Buchanan commented: Hi Jill Pam often checks in to read the latest comments here. My parents were friends with Evan Elsners parents, and we stayed at their Pacoima house several times in the years following the tragedy. And yes, please, feel free to include the link. I was in the 6th grade at Beachy Ave. The program we developed is known as START (Simple Triage And Rapid Transport). Thanks to Gary and Russ. Your lifetime discomfort with flying seems to be a common thread among many who were personally affected by the crash including your chum, Richie Valens. Oh, my. and Garber, so our vantage points were probably quite similar. And about those exams: STOP WORRYING. I saw one boy on fire. Even though this crash was well documented, it just seemed to fade away and no one spoke about it, but in my mind it was big. I was doing some research on this so thanks for posting the information. Bill Ritchie, From: Russ Buchanan To: billscessn99@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 1:54 AM Subject: [New comment] Pacoima Jr. High School Airplane Crash of 1957 (audio recording as it happened) #yiv9852227305 a:hover {color:red;}#yiv9852227305 a {text-decoration:none;color:#0088cc;}#yiv9852227305 a.yiv9852227305primaryactionlink:link, #yiv9852227305 a.yiv9852227305primaryactionlink:visited {background-color:#2585B2;color:#fff;}#yiv9852227305 a.yiv9852227305primaryactionlink:hover, #yiv9852227305 a.yiv9852227305primaryactionlink:active {background-color:#11729E;color:#fff;}#yiv9852227305 WordPress.com |, Russ Buchanan commented: Hey Nanci -Youve got the right Russell. Thank you for your input. We heard the crash and our windows shook. I am devastated by the deaths and injuries but so thankful that there were not more. Russ What does the school look like now? The journey back to the morning of Jan. 31, 1957, began with a phone call from retired nurse Mary Lewandowski, who wondered how to find out what had happened to the two boys she'd spent four months caring for at Sun Valley Hospital nearly 50 years earlier. I remember seeing the hole in the field. I was just a tyke, but somehow I remembered your Evan connection and that he had red hair and freckles. Thinking of Evan and the other boys makes me wonder how their lives would have gone had fate been kinder. Upon his arrival, he was white as a ghost. From one Poly High alum to another: Thanks for your perspective on that day. He also had a second profession as a movie actor. After school we went with my mom to pick up our baby sitter, her name was Joyce, I do not remember her last name, anyway, she lived on Laurel Canyon right across the street from the school I saw the devastation and will remember the incident the rest of my life. This Incident Command System has spread from the west coast to the east. A lot of human misery occurred on that day. This was truly cathartic for me. I assume you went to Pacoima after Terra Bella. Apparently, the plane he flew on 1Jan57 had taken off from Palmdale and my dad was at work that day. I was young and that is all I know. Coming from a member of Ronnies family, your comment is especially welcome. Craigs nickname was Beetle Bentley. I thought it was actually a high school and it was a football field, but that was the perspective of a 5 year old. It was deafening. He was in Kindergarden at the school next door to Pacoima Jr High. At first, I was hesitant to post the recording because of its potential for reawakening the horror in people like your husband. Sometimes it takes time to put two and two together. Non censuram.Find The History Guy at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheHistoryGuyYT/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheHistoryGuyThe History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered is the place to find short snippets of forgotten history from five to fifteen minutes long. It was a miracle that the plane didnt crash into the elementary school as well as the gym field. I was only five when the plane came down and remember very little of that day, despite the fact that my big sister and my dad were on campus when it happened. Anybody out there remember her? Ronnie was killed on January 31, 1957, when three students on the playground of Pacoima Junior High School were among the eight persons killed as the result of a midair collision between a four-engine Douglas DC-7B airliner and a United States Air Force Northrop F-89J Scorpion jet fighter in the skies above nearby. And thanks for your excellent suggestion about bequeathing this sound file. We got in the car and drove to the Pacoima Junior High. I cannot tell you how the events of that day and this recording have stayed with me all these days. As it completed the turn, the jet slammed into the wing of a DC-7B transport plane returning to Douglas Aircrafts Santa Monica plant on a routine test run. When I got out I found that my parents had arranged to move to Palmdale, Ca. Everyone dove under their desks and covered their heads.I did not. Niccol Barca, Tommaso Grossi Many have dubbed the new Democratic Party leader the Italian AOC. Heres why she has her work cut out for her. He had good social skills at an early age. Of the many times I have related the story to people through the years, my most vivid recall has been of the line in Lindas commencement speech about having only one life to live. I also remember seeing ceiling tiles falling and hanging lamps swaying back and forth. My family was two houses from yours. My prayer to God is that everyone touched by this tragic event be touched by God in a special way to bring total healing. I read that the school does not have any kind of monnoument or something about the accident, which i think is a shame, couse even though such memories are hard to remember i think they should be remembered for the safety of children in the future, i think the school should definitely not just try to push the memories away and try to forget, because. Your account is the first Id heard about Berger and his music therapy pulling him through ah, the power of music. Yeah. In fact, Id be surprised if lots of kids and teachers on and near the campus didnt believe the same thing initially. Also, I think a number of other contributors here remembered seeing you that day. It appears the kid is walking toward the school? Yep. I remember when i was 12 and the dreams i had and how im now getting to fullfill them if i get accepted into university.I know maybe for you alot of other replays here are more interesting than mine since they seem to be from people who are from around your area or the tragic accidents. Hi Phyllis June 15, 2015 at 7:15 am. The DC7 had the outer wing clipped off.out further than the outboard engine. I was in 9th grade at Pacoima Junior High School, when the plane crash occurred.. Meanwhile, in Palmdale to the north . I think dad had given Paul a copy of the tape back then. Eight people on the ground in Pacoima, California are killed following the mid-air collision between a Douglas DC-7 airliner and a Northrop F-89 Scorpion fighter jet. Because we were children, and in an age when you simply go on with life, those I know of have done just that. The organizers believe the sound of an actual disaster will lend gravitas and realism to the drill. Certainly less frightening, but just as capable of creating lasting, disturbing impressions the sight of two aircraft plummeting to their doom and the human cost implied, would be enough to sear into anyones brain. I turned around to see all the debri in the air. injuries. I lived on the Easterly side of Beachy at the corner of Garber in the older houses that were there before all the tract houses were built. Thank you for posting this, it has been shared with the rest of our family. Unable to find anything, we tasked ourselves to create one. I too have some rare family video that is hosted on a pay site and worry now it might be lost to future generations when I stop paying the hosting fees when Im gone. I was in the 4th grade at Montague that day. Thats why you hear the tape speeding up at the end. RB, Right, but all Im saying is that Wollensak was owned by 3M at one point.or had a very close relationship. And Larry Bakken. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, L.A. Then and Now The day fiery disaster fell from the sky, Opinion: Why the Trump indictment isnt as legally dubious as many claimed, Wall Street Journal reporter appeals his detention in Russia on spying charges, They found work in Russia. At five years old, though, I had no idea of what it meant. I was not hurt. Since I went to Pacoima 64-67, I missed him too. For the most part, it seems the recording and the comments from witnesses/survivors have had a beneficial effect on those touched by that day. I can only imagine how weird and disturbing it would be to have such a pivotal life experience erased from memory. I dont know if there were problems with the medical response, but I do know that valley residents demanded that test flights cease over the Valley and they did. Who knows, maybe one of your new acquaintances has written here. Fascinating and, considering the effect her unresolved feelings might have had on her daughter, very sad. And i am also very shocked how people were not more clever at that time that they tested planes over areas that were populated, i mean its not like the technology was better before and yet they didnt seem to think further and let such things happend. My Father, Bill Carr, was the pilot of the DC-7. Are you going to go to Pacoima when you get out of sixth grade or is sixth grade now in middle school? Ive always wondered for the past 55 years if there was anyone else here who remembered that day. I never knew if it was because the school board believed nuclear war was less likely after 65 or if they figured junior high-aged kids should be wise enough, in the event of a nuclear blast, to drop under their desks without rehearsal. Women and men wept openly and copiously. I suppose the single most interesting aspect of this story and the recording is how many people were, as you put it, haunted their entire lives by this tragedy. On a lighter note if you are the Garth Rodriguez I think you are, you were the lead singer in one my very first bands. I was a student in the seventh grade on And yes, you have my permission to use the audio in your classes. And the Showman with large Jack Ritoli. 1 February 1957; Page 11; San Bernardino Sun, Volume 63, Number 132, 1 February 1957 Page 11. . I am 75 years old now and still remember incident vividly,,it is so tragic that I believe it is something one never forgets. Blessings to those who were hurt and my thoughts are with the families of those who passed away. What I remember next was the sound. The History Guy made a report of this crash recently (July, 2018): Hi, Dan yeah, I checked it out. 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My brother was in the auditorium for graduation ceremonies, I was in the 4th grade on the playground for recess. HE PLAYED DURING LUNCH AND WHEN EVER ANY ONE WOULD LISTEN. I remember holding on to the chain link fence with both hands, trying make sense of it all. Thank you for your posting the audio tape. Thanks for contributing your vivid memory of that day. I see the screaming kid writhing in pain with his intestines protruding. Nanci mentioned walking home from Beach Ave. elementary. When I was writing and researching this story, I thought about how tough that day must have been for mom. Such a horrible thing to happen. She wanted to tell us about the crash before anyone else at the school. Our teacher yelled at the class to drop and cover. Again, thanks for your comment and interest, Thanks for sharing Russ, wow amazing to read and hear the recording. In a way, Im thinking of it as a posthumous attaboy to my father, who, you may recall, made the recording. He had a true survivors spirit. Is there any recent into or people who were on the field then that you could send me? By the way, in the audio recording you have, to me it sounds like the school official is saying: It was a jet blast. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B operated by Douglas Aircraft Company was involved in a mid-air collision with a United States Air Force Northrop F-89 Scorpion and crashed into the schoolyard of Pacoima Junior High School located in Pacoima, a suburban area in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, California. Thanks to those who have shared their thoughts here. It is perfect as the scenario is an air crash. It was my seventh grade classmates that were on the field that day. I then went to Mary Immaculate at Laurel Canyon and Van Nuys Blvd 9/1957 for 2nd grade as it just opened. After talking to the school, she told me that school would be closed for a few days until they could clean off the fence. 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