They are just too perfect to have been replaced and this thing has had virtually no use. Explains the varnish-vs-oil question. The three brands are Old Town, Wenonah and Mad River that would fit our needs. It appears there is even a kneeling thwart just aft of the yoke for when you want to solo it. id of old Mad river canoeI came for a similar reason trying to find the exact material of my MADEX135E787 Essential information like specifications, prices and places to buy them is displayed in a standard format, so you dont need to jump from one website to another. Thank you for your consideration. $50 cash Mad River canoes are sold at independent outdoors stores and chains like REI. Mad River Sunrunner no experience with this model. Raised none the less. Also asked him for any literature on KE or Airex but I received nothing on these. Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bowstern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Mad River has been building canoes for almost 50 years. You can easily change out the seats. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. We greatly appreciate your business and look forward to getting you out on the water. Many models have been phased in and out through the years, and recently theyve focused on three canoe models: the Adventure, Explorer and Journey. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. boats. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. $887,744 hide. I cant comment on the last 2 boats. CORRECTION: In thinking through the details of our last trip it occured to me that on the longer portages (400M & up) I was not carrying the 20 lb day pack along with the canoe. Best for leisurely excursions on smallish lakes and ponds, bad for whitewater They were early adopters of Kevlar and Royalex materials, switching to T-Formex when it wasdeveloped. in color. You can also target your search in specialized pages, like MEC Gearswap or a local paddling clubs used boat listings. You might invest in a can of Watco Teak Oil since you can also use it on the rest of the wood although your wood trim does not look desperate for attention. Serial # info requestI recently found a Mad River Independence, from what I can make out the serial # is MAD1D2771293. Sunrunner. Id lean towards the Camper for you and suggest that you and your wife try loading it to make sure youre comfy with the weight. What I can't figure out is what our model is. 18 ft. Mad River "lamoille" kevlar canoe. 3/4 . Best, You can find some information about discontinued Mad River canoe models on their website. While firsthand experience is the best way to fully realize a canoes performance, expert reviews are the next best way. 1) Anyone know where I could get the polypropylene, molded end caps, touch-up gellcoat, or even new-old-stock contoured seats?? Plastic seats with aluminum struts between gunwales for seats (looks like the rivets for the seats go through the hull on the sides). Important Shipping Notice -Due to business-related impacts of COVID-19, replacement parts orders placed through this website are estimated to take between 2-3weeks to arrive in home. That matters in your situation, more than the seats, gunwales, or design of the canoe. The Journey has a minimal rocker, making it track (move straight) much better than the Explorer. You may still find some of last years models in shops, and decades worth of canoes on the used market. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. 4/13 . 4/13 . I bought what I think is a Mad River Endurall from 1973 but the seller wasnt sure of the model. Mine are really beat up, so the boat is without any decks right now. in open water on large lakes. If youre keen on a solo canoe shorter than 12 feet or a canoe for less than $1,500, consider an Old Town. Any ideas what they are? 3/4 . Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. You probably have access to a number of other brands there in WI, but these brands you listed are some of the most common across the country (aside from Coleman and Pelican, which I wouldnt recommend for you), so youre likely to get good feedback. I was tempted because it looked like a good deal but already have a Bell Northwind 16rx that I set up for solo. Theres a significant jump in quality between $600 canoes and ones from dedicated canoe builders. You should be able to tell if this is the case as there will be a visible roughly football-shaped raised area on the hull bottom where the Airex foam bottom core is and the raised contour of around 7 side ribs extending from that up to the gunwale line. Avoid Royalex boats, cross-link poly, or other heavy types of boat construction. The boat is 16 long. New listings: Canoe - Mad River Screamer - $620 (Jamestown), Mad River Lamoile Canoe - $1 000 (Hogwaller) The Sunrunner was one of a series of ~ 17' touring hulls Jim Henry designed in the 80s and 90s. I do not know what the "A" represents. if you could help me id it I would appreciate it. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. The shallowness also a bit of a concern as we really enjoy some of the bigger waters in Quetico. I found an older mad river Kevlar 49 and I'm trying to figure out the actual model of the boat. This gives the Journey and Explorer more secondary stability, which helps the canoe recover if its on its edge in more dynamic water. No wood rot. color: tan This content was made possible with the support of OntarioCreates. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. Having the weight directly above the scale is more sensible. Most recently, three models have been built: the recreational Adventure and the touring/all-around Journey and Explorer. I am curious about the "A" appended to the end of the HIN. Check out how precariously close the mounting holes are in the thwart. Home run. It also looks like perfect paddling weather today. Canoe Mad River Explorer. Malecite KL 1993-2001 Sunrunner FG 1994-1997 Malecite Special Edition 2001 Sunrunner KE 1994-1996. Perhaps some solo with fishing in mind but again on small ponds and lakes. I'll check out Ed's for the caning and some other wish list items. Agreed on the weighing difficulties but I have been to Wisconsin a time or two and have seen individuals in bars sporting Sheboygan Goiters that must've been darn close to a 16ft cantilever. 17 feet 2 inch long. Canoe Mad River Explorer. A couple even older models show up - a 1980 vintage Pathfinder 15 (which seems to be the predecessor to the camper) - though I am unclear what the weight might be - Old Town Pathfinder Oltonar, and this cedar fiberglass from 1976 a Mansfield Stowe 15 foot - Mansfield Stowe - Seems like this company has been out of business since the late 1990s -. http://myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=40923, http://www.edscanoe.com/doityourself.html, https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis70_&dpSrc=srch, Algonquin Park 2021: Tim Lake - Nipissing River - Magnetawan Lake Loop, Cooper Pond - The Hard Way (North Maine Woods), Algonquin Park May 2019: Kiosk to Birchcliffe Cabin Loop. Prior to that time, MRC #'s identify model, material, month and year, but not color That is an appendage. Looking for a tandem canoe for a couple in our mid-fifties. Maine-based Old Town is one of Americas original canoe manufacturers. large framed wilderness print under glass canoe river husky blue. Completely agreed that plastic end caps are hokey however very practical if this thing will be used as a tripper. In the centre is a closed-cell foam which gives the canoe buoyancy. Your boat is stunning and you must be right about the ash as I paid attention to the weight of the yoke yesterday and too light to be oak. 1991 based on the serial number. If the present era of supply chain delays and booming interest in paddlesports has taught us anything, its that used canoes are nearly impossible to find in the summer. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best Offer Fiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. There is room for it to be longer so maybe I will start with that and go from there. 2/27 . Quebec-based canoe manufacturer Esquif produces T-Formex and builds this iteration of the Explorer. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Mad River Canoe repair, new ash gunwales, seats, yoke and handles. Discussion of all things WhiteWater Canoe related, Moderators: kenneth, sbroam, TheKrikkitWars, Mike W., Sir Adam, KNeal, PAC, adamin, Post The Journey 156 is a design thats at home wherever you paddle, offering a blend of sophistication and durability. ABS (acrylonitrile butadiene styrene) plastic layers encase both sides of the foam to protect it and add stiffness to the shape. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. 2012-14. (all the Campers Ive seen had flat web or cane seats), OT Discovery 174 - tough and durable but too heavy. So in the end got the right canoe at a good price and hopefully helped the gentleman to move to a new boat that will be a better fit for his situation. Your canoe was built in May of 2000. I would like to get my hands on the stock end caps to see how they fit in considering your water-trap concern. Nice canoe. 17 isnt too long or short, can carry a decent load, has a little rocker for streams, gel coated Kevlar is an ideal layup - light but semi durable (much more so than skincoat Kevlar at least). The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. It's super gentleand that's what is on the Blackhawk in the pic. Tracks beautifully Thanks. JavaScript is disabled. Congrats! by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:51 pm, Post Its light for a Royalex boat at 57 pounds if the manufacturer specs can be trusted. See and review all Mad River canoes here. They stockmany canoe parts and are knowledgeable about Mad River Canoes. heres a thead from the archives: All the performance of the Adventure 16, with added stability and ease of handling on and off the water. Edscanoe.com is a good source. 1) The FC (Fiberglass Cloth) build does not show the floor being painted with "Protective Surface Paint" like all three of the Kevlar builds do. 33.5 inch gunwale width. Reading reviews provides the insight you wouldnt get otherwise. Thanks again guys. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in . Mad River Model Produced Sunrunner KH 1996-1997 Sunrunner KL 1994 Synergy RX 1996-2000 columbia, MO boats - by owner "canoes" - craigslist. Took some photos this AM but have yet to compare with the info shown in the '94 catalog provided to me by customer service. This leads me to wonder about other errors which I can imagine with all the different versions, acronyms, and changing terminology. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. It consists of three distinct layers. 2) Is there any potential problem with a very thin gap between the two-part gunwales on either side as resetting the screws does little to close the gap? The MR and Wenonah are both good boats. The "Boats By Year" guide was made at least as late as 2011 so this could make sense. Glad I'm not the only one needing to dig into old documents to find answers. This canoe is a one-owner, and has been garage kept. Scored this on craigslist for free! If Im reading this right could this be the 9th production model of the first Kevlar Canoes commercially made? A Mad River is a good option if youre looking for a no-nonsense, high-quality canoe. 3/4 . CL. Old Town makes wide, stable polyethylene canoes for solo and tandem paddling. I agree that you want as light a boat as you can get to make it easy to use. The T-Formex Explorer is a bit lighter at 77 pounds. This thread mentions the HIN online directory which I went to and learned that my canoe is likely a 1985 production model Explorer 5021 My question for the experts on this forum is, what is a 5021?? You will like it. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. DarnMy search for a good deal on a tripping canoe continues. Excited to get a second opinion. JavaScript is disabled. Or maybe following a test run in the spring I'll decide to keep it since it is so darned cool??? thx. Maybe you have insight on this? The odd thing is the boat is camouflage from the factory. Top picks: Best Mad River canoes for 2023, Alabama Mountain Lakes Tourist Association, The Great Canadian Kayak Challenge & Festival, Best Canoe Brands For Tripping, Whitewater, Fishing & More, Tripping Canoe Review: Mad River Expedition 176, Mad River Malecite Ultralite Canoe Review, Survive Just About Anything On Your Next Paddling Trip. Id suggest youd be best off with flat web/cane seats than molded uni-directional seats so you can paddle solo from the bow seat facing backwards to bring your solo paddler weight closer to the middle of the canoe. Thats not hard and would cost a little over $100 for seats, seat drops and hardware. Use the filters below to view the canoes by type, material, size or store. No doubt it is well made but being mid 40's forces me to consider weight. I tried contacting MRC but havent gotten a reply yet (2 Weeks). Is that the measurement you meant? Canoe Mad River Explorer. However in doing the best I could given two household scales, I am coming up with about 61 lbs. Kevlar Fusion and carbon are composite renditions of the Explorer. Ultimately I would. For day trips a 16 foot canoe is fine, maybe even 15 feet. Only the SR921 is not strictly defined by the coast guard. Mad River Explorer 16 Canoe. The gunwales are square. Re: Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbe, https://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic ial+number, http://picasaweb.google.com/scott.broam/CanoeOutfitting. I'm not as well versed as some folks here are with Mad River canoes but on the whole, it looks like you have a nice canoe. T-Formex is the most ruggedmaterial. Also, FYI I just sent Confluence scans of my 1976 and 1977 MRC catalogs which I recently located. not the fastest or straightest tracking, good when you dont need to go too far or too fast. The Sunrunner was just a weird design that almost nobody likes, the Destiny is just blah when compared with the Northwind that Bell has, and the Sunrunner and Spirit that . You might let the ends of your handles, thwarts, and drops soak in oil overnightonce in their lifetime, and I'd drip some oil down those drops. For the prior weight attempt I simply held the canoe on my haunches but in thinking over this method I can imagine how that arrangement could've registered a lighter weight given I was somewhat off balance. There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventure's wide, flat hull. Do not email or textyou MUST call 410 610 5653, 2005 Hand Made, Custom Built, Wood Strip Modified Adirondack Guide Boat. The composite editions of the Explorer are much lighter, at 44 pounds for the Kevlar Fusion and 40 for the carbonversion. The customer service guy is out for the next week so will need to wait a for some of the questions I had for him. Has anybody ever seen a camo Kevlar boat? On the underside of the bow deckplate is written the hull ID number so I would imagine these are original. People upgrading or cleaning out a garage may just be trying to get rid of the boat rather than recoup much money. Its a model thats well suited for a specific niche, but that seems to be your niche. I can sure relate to leaving the natural wood color too. 5h ago . I don't blame you a bit for going after that other boat since it looks to be a fine boat at a great price. ~wetzool. From what I have read about varnish vs oil it makes sense that oil be used on components that flex as varnish is rigid and develops hairline fractures that over time allow water in. If you prefer kneeling when you paddle, make sure that your feet fit comfortably underneath the bench seats. Also not knowing exactly how the different fabrics looked. It may be a little lighter than the Camper but Id expect it to be in the low 50s. 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