Later, if it gets harder to get on and off you can always add the step and hand bar. Solid, Paul. Doesnt the Toro have limits on towing to 85 lbs? I have 2 1/2 acres and my Husky is 9 years old. This mower is self-propelled and can hang on any hill. John Deere Z530M (Local Dealer) The 4-point is also strong enough that you can step on it to get on and off the tractor. Also, can you still find the Husqvarna articulating mower? When we need parts and service, I imagine we may end up going to Tractor Supply well see. Go visit them and see which dealers you like. From poor structural design to poor deck hangers that break and the fact that they have changed the mower from having 10 rear tires to 8 rear tires causes the mower to slide more easily, even on dry ground. Thank you! Thanks for all the great info here. Toro TimeCutter SS Mulch Kit. Price/performance/and working your hills this is the best choice. Seems like you get a overall better mower on the Cub than the Toro with the better transmission and extra features like the foot height adjustment, hour meter, headlights, etc. I also expect that following the bed lines in the front part of the lawn will be more difficult with a garden tractor. My budge is around the $6000 mark, Out of the apex and mz61 which one would have the overall better quality and longevity and have the best cut quality. The Titan is entirely born of steel. Hi paul, Great review!!! I can get on and off without the rail, but it involves using the deck as a step, which the dealer says is fine. What do you think of this mower, and who makes it? The Toro Timecutter Z420 comes equipped with a 21-inch premium steel deck. Hi K.C., I never recommend buying used unless you are very mechanically inclined, have engine and transmission expertise and get such a good deal that you can fix all the little things that will go wrong. Id guess were actually mowing 75% of the acre. How does the next step up Cub Cadet (ZTX4) stack up same tranny & engine I believe. The Kubota is overpriced for what you get. I mow 2 1/2 acres with some inclines and trees. Or Bagger for 42 inch Stamped Deck. The Walker will always give you the best cut because of the ground-hugging deck. This will save a lot of wear and tear on the transmission. By the way, Paul, I am very impressed that your top choice for me is one that wouldnt get you a commission. For example, my Dodge Caravan can pull 5000 lbs but I should not have more than 150 lbs on the hitch (tongue weight) Any more weight than that and the weight would push the rear of the van down too much making the van hard to steer or even understeer on a corner causing an accident. Id go visit each dealer and buy from the one you trust the most. If you want to learn more please go over to this post: Number 1, 2, 3, and 5 are good choices for your yard and what you want to do. Zero-turn Steering Wheel. Both Gravely and Toro will be around for parts and service for years to come. I have both brands and I use them all the time. The zero-turn mower is equipped with a durable 54-inch cutting deck to ensure superb grass-cutting performance on lawns. I would greatly appreciate your advice regarding the best mower for my needs. 1, Walker Model R (new Model)42inch Kohler 7000 The 75746 in particular will mow 2-3 miles an hour faster and still give you a perfect cut. A good size for lawn tractors and zero-turns. I currently either mulch or side-discharge my clippings and will likely continue to do so. ), good speed, would like towing capability (limited I suppose), and riding comfort (albeit, reliability is more important to me). I do like the 42 inch Toro over the 46 inch Cub Cadet. My second choice is the Ariens IKON XL. The biggest problem with the TB30 is its lack of traction on any type of slope so most zero-turns will be better but I suggest a heavy-duty model. Can you tell if your local Home Depot uses an authorized John Dear or Toro dealer for assembly, setup, delivery for their ZTs? I suggest mowing at 4 inches and then mow in the late afternoon. Trying to decide between the Toro 42in Vtwin or Ariens Ikon XD 42. And which engine should I choose if I go with the edge? Yard is about 1 acre. I purposely did not expand on my Toro dealer experience. With 4 years warranty cover, the MZ61 just edges it over the Toro Titan. They own the Huskee brand name. And the seat doesnt adjust as easily as the seat on the Deere, and well likely have different size operators rather frequently. I personally dont like baggers because they are big, bulky, and hard to store so I mulch the leaves and then pick up whats left with a high-speed sweeper. Fabricated Deck 24 HP Kohler Pro 7000 Series Engine with Roll Over ProtectionAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZTX4 60 in. This oil meets or exceeds performance requirements of all OEM engines (Toro, Briggs & Stratton, KOLHER, Honda, and Tecumseh). The 50 inch Model 75750 will go through your gates with the side discharge up. Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? Check them out here: Toro TimeCutter MX5075 with MyRIDE Suspension System 50 in. Moreover, Toro mowers can quickly stick and much better at discharge mulching also. The HD series are similar to the Toro Titan mowers or some of your other commercial mowers, so they kind of fit in the middle for somebody who wants a little more machine without going into full-fledged commercial grade machine. I have been a follower of your site for a few years now. I have 2 acres I mow Is this too much acreage for a mulch kit?i feel like Im shortening the life of the mower by stressing it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Thanks in advance! Thanks in advance! I have seen some concern about the non-serviceable transmission on this model. They are handcrafted well-padded seats with armrests and adjustable positions. What would you suggest? He mentioned and agreed but also suggested that the Cub and Toro will tow the same. Beautiful controls, 8.5mph flat speed, and a large 22.7ltr fuel tank. Im moving into a just less than 3 acre lot/home. Toro TimeCutter MX Series MX5050 Zero Turn Rider 74774 (50): $3200 Hi Paul, Great information! 1. They will also mow that taller pasture with the mulch plate installed if you lift the deck up as high as it can go. He is a riding mower lover and has been active in the industry for years. Chris, Walker Model R: If you want the best possible cut I suggest the Walker Model R with the 48-inch deck. I only mulch, and as often the case in the NW , the grass here is damp. Both have a 21-inch cutting width, and both . In addition, some companies want their own exclusive brand so they dont have to price match another retailer. Have a wonderful day! A good size for snow blowers and push mowers. No, it doesnt ride quite as smooth as the Toro MX5075 but rides well and is built stronger than that Toro. Its the Capital one Savor Card, google it if interested in the promo. Hes also fairly rough on equipment, (He killed an Exmark Lazer Z in 10 years) so the Ariens Apex/Gravely can put up with his abuse. Now, The commercial Kawasaki FS and FX are great engines. Hello Paul. The flip=up mid-mount deck is unique and works well. Hi Adam, I recommend the Toro Titan with MyRide. So, instead of wrecking the steel frame and rendering the mower unsafe for use until fully repaired, the aluminum hubs will absorb the shock and the damage which is highly economical to fix in comparison to repairing a wounded 10-gauge steel frame. Scag has also been around for a long time and the larger mowers are very popular with landscape contractors. TORO not only includes the room needed for taller people, they include adjustable seats and the MyRide system to ensure that riders of all sizes are comfortable. Hi Paul, I have a 1 acre with about a 10 to 12 degree slope in the backyard. Hi Chris, The Ferris IS600z is a commercial mower and is really overkill for 2 acres. They will have the latest sales info and you can ask them. Ive owned them since 1997 and they have never let me down. So many choices! Whats your thought on the John Deere Z355E? I dont recommend lawn tractors for slopes over 15 degrees. It is more on the lush side in the spring and fall. Check Latest Price. (There are a lot of small assembly shops that do make components for most brands). The Kohler Confidant is a commercial engine. Fabricated Deck 24 HP Kawasaki FR Series V-Twin Gas Engine Zero Turn Mower with Lap Bar ControlAvailable at, Toro 60 in. Over 142 weeks or $236.94/month over. Ive thought about asking for the mulch kit to be thrown in for free, but thats only a $110.00 value at retail price. I prefer the joystick steering but they do have the lap-bar option if you want. Hi Tommy, My first choice for mowing one acre and pulling a cart is the 42 in. If you wreck a piece, youre going down with a bill. The John Deere D110 has a 43-inch deck, which is large enough for most homeowners' lawns. They do look VERY similar. It will easily last you 10 years or more. If you are inexperienced with standons check out this article: Spartan. Lay on the ground on the non-discharge side of the mower. Ive got about two acres of mostly flat lawn at my house. Then if you still need help deciding which mower to buy feel free to come back and ask more questions here. Funny you should ask. The other hidden gem is County Clipper. Sorry for the long post but I have NO EXPERIENCE at all with any of this. 4. Probably could pull the cart full of rocks easily for a long time. Walker brand ZTRs can typically handle steeper slopes because of their low center of gravity. Hi Kurt, Im always a little partial to the Exmark. The Bad Boy MZ Magnum zero-turn mower runs on a 725cc Kohler Pro 7000 HD series engine for a powerful mowing operation. Toro timecutter HD or Do you have a suggestion for the engine choice, Toro twin 24.5 hp or Kohler 22hp? I need something that will handle the cutting duties without leaving rows of grass clipping or mohawks. Hi Ryan, I have no preference between the Kawasaki FR or the Kohler 7000. I weigh 200, and the mowers are 500 and 575 lbs, putting us well under the 900 lb rating of the EZT. If he balks at that try for a tune-up kit, blades or air cleaner etc. They are the same price. The dealer will be glad to sharpen and balance them while its in for the tune-up. Would this be enough to see a difference? Im seeking serviceable hydros, large tires, 5 cut height and probably 48-54 cut for ease of maneuvering and gates. Hi Paul, I think my earlier attempt at a reply went astray. (About $2999) If you husband is over 200 lbs I recommend the IKON. Your review the other day was spot on. By Paul Sikkema. Robotic Mowers. Hi Dave, Everyone is very satisfied with the Toro/Exmark engine. I would check the belt you are using as a replacement. The dealer will do the tuneup and make sure everything is working perfectly. They are rated for over 500 hours which for most people equals 2 hours a week for over 10 years. They dont have enough traction and the center of gravity is too high. The driveshaft is more durable than the Grasshoppers. I mow our residential, flat, 1 acre yard with ~10 trees and fence in Pittsburgh, PA. And with my analytical mind, I go back and forth and change my mind on many of these. Hi Rob, All of the current name-brand zero-turns are a lot easier to drive than the models made 20 years ago. Ive always liked John Deere, but I am concerned that their decks accumulate too much grass clippings and get clogged. In my opinion, it will be faster than a DR leaf vac plus you dont have to mess with that extra engine Everything opens up for cleaning, inspection and belt replacement. The decks are robust and can handle the work. The Ariens has an offset deck and a 4-point deck. Based on your post and previous comments I know this is going to be 1 of the 2 choices so go ahead and scroll up and pick 1 of the 3 others lol. 3. The only real difference is the Toro has a slightly thicker deck, the automatic parking brake, and the smart speed control. Thoughts? Im spending days with my edger to get under the fences and around trees. Possible candidates would be a Toro TimeCutter HD or Titan, a Cub Cadet ZT2, or possibly a John Deere or some sort. The Toro Z20042 has a 48-inch deck, which will be better suited for larger yards. When the mower is out of service, should the deck be at a specific height, like all the way up or all the way down? 2. The Intek is a good motor for someone who has a flat lawn and mows about 1/2 acre a week, but for what you want to mow it will last long enough to just get past the warranty. I was able to steer it OK, and it handled the sloped areas with no problems. Hi Walter, The Ariens. The Kawasaki I believe is the lower end residential mower engine and Kohler is the introduction lower end Commercial engine. Fabricated Deck 23 HP Kawasaki FR Series V-Twin Gas Engine Zero Turn Mower with Lap Bar ControlAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZT2 54 in. If Im creeping up toward 6K, is there any other brands that I should be looking at or are the specs all going to be about the same? Looks like the Cub has a stronger transmission than the Toro with the ZT2200 and the Toro has the ZT2100. Bradley is a small Midwest company thats been around for years. Exmark's cutting width of 48-60 inches is marginally superior to Toro's 50-72 inches. I dont have an issue with the Cub Cadet ZT1 42. I prefer the Walker. 1. Any ideas? 48 (122 cm) TITAN MR 4800 MyRIDE. After that, if you take care of the machine it will last for you. Yes, It rides well and mows OK but for commercial users, the shaft drive doesnt hold up as well as belts. The Toros height adjuster is easy to use. Also deciding between the deck size 54 ( 52 Exmark ) and both have a 60. It cuts well and is built like a tank. I do think Ill like the wider rear tires on the Deere though. Hi Rob, Lets start with the Toro. Do you think I should go down to a 42, or stay with the larger engines and beefier decks that come with the larger mowers? I think I like the idea of a lighter, more nimble mower, but perhaps the heavier one is better for most general applications. The front half of the lawn is level, and thus can be mowed with even a basic riding mower. You are paying quite a bit extra with the Toro to get the suspension platform. So, every young kid who was getting into the lawn mowing business bought the Kaw because they were cheaper. They are both air-cooled engines so they dont have a water jacket to quiet the internal noises as a car engine does. Any recommendations on brand and a specific mower in that brand? Personally, Id go with a little heavier machine. I normally keep a zero-turn about 3 years. The deck is a lot stronger than the stamped deck and will handle banging against tree roots, etc. The Deere you are looking at uses the Intek. While this video goes over the differences between a TORO Timecutter and a TORO Titan, there is one common option on each machine that you should consider. Lastly, $3.5K $5.5K or thereabouts would be presentable to the Queen Beejust sayin. Go over your machine and make sure they assembled it correctly. But, like most mowers made by MTD in that time-frame (2012-2015) many of them had problems with the deck drive belt coming off a lot. Paul does most of his writing out in his workshop where he feeds the wildlife and birds in the yard. You get a better experience when you buy from a dealer. I have looked at the Ariens Ikon 52, Bad Boy Elite, Skag Liberty Z 52, and Toro Timemaster with Soft Ride Suspension. The Toro has the option MyRide suspension that really smooths out the bumps. And I have a good mower shop just a mile away that is not a dealer, they will service whatever you bring. Dont be surprised if your neighbors take videos just to show their friends how fast you are mowing . Most cost $8000 and up. I hate that it doesnt have armrests, but the red/black color is sweet. Im starting off this article with a list of my choice for the best zero-turn mowers for 2022. You provide really good information and I feel like you put alot of thought and energy into responding to those who seek your advice. If I stay with a 50 Im trying to decide between the toro mx5000, the zt1 50, or the ikon x 52. 452 cc Toro Engine. Hi Daron, If you do a lot of towing the Toro TimeCutter is the best choice in that price range. They made a few improvements and painted them white. About half the lot is sloped from 11 13.7 degrees (measured with angle finder phone app calibrated with a level). My wife has demanded I either take down some trees, buy some equipment that can handle the job, or hire it out. Hi Ryan, I actually recommend the John Deere Z355R. That said, The Kawasaki FR engine you find on this price range of mowers is nothing special. If the non pro Gavely units were part of the 20% off deal, I might go that route as the dealer is 5 or 6 miles from the house. 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